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syscon at interbaun.com
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 Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 1:34 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] IAX2 hardware video phone |
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Are there any hardware video phone that supports IAX2?
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rob at hillis.dyndns.org
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 4:57 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] IAX2 hardware video phone |
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Joseph wrote:
| Quote: | Are there any hardware video phone that supports IAX2?
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Only one of the better known brands have a video phone that I'm aware
of, and that's certainly not IAX2 compatible. For that matter, none of
the better known brands have a phone (video or otherwise) that is IAX2
compatible.
I'm not aware of any of the less known brands that have a phone that
fits your needs - and to be perfectly honest, I'd be /very/ careful
about going with the less known brands even if they did have something
that fitted your needs - from what I've seen, there's a reason the
better known brand are better known - with the exception of Grandstream,
they're more likely to work reliably for you. |
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syscon at interbaun.com
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 10:40 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] IAX2 hardware video phone |
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On 05/31/08 19:57, Rob Hillis wrote:
| Quote: | Joseph wrote:
| Quote: | Are there any hardware video phone that supports IAX2?
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Only one of the better known brands have a video phone that I'm aware
of, and that's certainly not IAX2 compatible. For that matter, none of
the better known brands have a phone (video or otherwise) that is IAX2
compatible.
I'm not aware of any of the less known brands that have a phone that
fits your needs - and to be perfectly honest, I'd be /very/ careful
about going with the less known brands even if they did have something
that fitted your needs - from what I've seen, there's a reason the
better known brand are better known - with the exception of Grandstream,
they're more likely to work reliably for you.
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There are not many options to chose from when it comes to video phone in decent price range.
The only option I have seen is Grandstream GXV3000; it works with Asterisk but it is SIP phone.
So to traverse the firewall using "IAX2" I need to connect it to an internal asterisk box or make a "Swiss cheese"
out of a firewall.
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mgraves at mstvp.com
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 11:52 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] IAX2 hardware video phone |
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On Sat, 31 May 2008 09:40:27 -0600, Joseph wrote:
| Quote: | On 05/31/08 19:57, Rob Hillis wrote:
| Quote: | Joseph wrote:
| Quote: | Are there any hardware video phone that supports IAX2?
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Only one of the better known brands have a video phone that I'm aware
of, and that's certainly not IAX2 compatible. For that matter, none of
the better known brands have a phone (video or otherwise) that is IAX2
compatible.
I'm not aware of any of the less known brands that have a phone that
fits your needs - and to be perfectly honest, I'd be /very/ careful
about going with the less known brands even if they did have something
that fitted your needs - from what I've seen, there's a reason the
better known brand are better known - with the exception of Grandstream,
they're more likely to work reliably for you.
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There are not many options to chose from when it comes to video phone in decent price range.
The only option I have seen is Grandstream GXV3000; it works with Asterisk but it is SIP phone.
So to traverse the firewall using "IAX2" I need to connect it to an internal asterisk box or make a "Swiss cheese"
out of a firewall.
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This is in fact an excellent application for small form factor Asterisk
appliances; SIP-IAX2 protocol translator. I have used Soekris boards
and recycled HP thin clients for this purpose.
I also occasionally use this approach when a favorite SIP hard phone
has SIP protocol incompatibility problems with hosted PBX systems. This
was the case with Junction Networks OnSIP and Aastra's 480 series.
Happily the newer 57 series work natively with OnSIP.
Michael
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sip:mjgraves at pixelpower.onsip.com
skype mjgraves
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rob at hillis.dyndns.org
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 7:13 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] IAX2 hardware video phone |
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Joseph wrote:
| Quote: | On 05/31/08 19:57, Rob Hillis wrote:
| Quote: | Only one of the better known brands have a video phone that I'm aware
of, and that's certainly not IAX2 compatible. For that matter, none of
the better known brands have a phone (video or otherwise) that is IAX2
compatible.
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The only option I have seen is Grandstream GXV3000; it works with Asterisk but it is SIP phone.
So to traverse the firewall using "IAX2" I need to connect it to an internal asterisk box or make a "Swiss cheese"
out of a firewall.
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It's the only one I'm aware of too, and having been bitten badly by the
Grandstream's superior ability to crash, hang, stuff up phone calls and
otherwise behave badly, the only recommendation I ever have for them is
to NOT use them. Whilst I haven't used a GXV3000 for long enough to
know how much the Grandstream instability applies to this phone, I've
had more than enough experience with GXP-2000s and BT200s. |
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syscon at interbaun.com
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 10:27 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] IAX2 hardware video phone |
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On 06/01/08 10:13, Rob Hillis wrote:
| Quote: | | Quote: | The only option I have seen is Grandstream GXV3000; it works with Asterisk but it is SIP phone.
So to traverse the firewall using "IAX2" I need to connect it to an internal asterisk box or make a "Swiss cheese"
out of a firewall.
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It's the only one I'm aware of too, and having been bitten badly by the
Grandstream's superior ability to crash, hang, stuff up phone calls and
otherwise behave badly, the only recommendation I ever have for them is
to NOT use them. Whilst I haven't used a GXV3000 for long enough to
know how much the Grandstream instability applies to this phone, I've
had more than enough experience with GXP-2000s and BT200s.
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Thanks for the input.
I've read some reviews and from what I've read the Video is OK but the voice quality is not impressive.
Is anybody using this model and can provide real life experience with GXV3000 model?
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stotaro at totarotechn...
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] IAX2 hardware video phone |
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On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Joseph <syscon at interbaun.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On 06/01/08 10:13, Rob Hillis wrote:
| Quote: | | Quote: | The only option I have seen is Grandstream GXV3000; it works with Asterisk but it is SIP phone.
So to traverse the firewall using "IAX2" I need to connect it to an internal asterisk box or make a "Swiss cheese"
out of a firewall.
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It's the only one I'm aware of too, and having been bitten badly by the
Grandstream's superior ability to crash, hang, stuff up phone calls and
otherwise behave badly, the only recommendation I ever have for them is
to NOT use them. Whilst I haven't used a GXV3000 for long enough to
know how much the Grandstream instability applies to this phone, I've
had more than enough experience with GXP-2000s and BT200s.
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Thanks for the input.
I've read some reviews and from what I've read the Video is OK but the voice quality is not impressive.
Is anybody using this model and can provide real life experience with GXV3000 model?
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#Joseph
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A local Asterisk server is the best way to do this. That being said,
the WRT54G and all of the other WiFi APs that can run dd-wrt or
Openwrt can actually be Asterisk servers. I have done it but never
went so far as to register a single phone. Not sure how it would
scale.
Question for Michael Graves (or anyone that can answer), I have two
big boxes of old HP thin clients. What do you do to recycle them?
Thanks,
Steve Totaro |
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gordon+asterisk at dro...
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| Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:18 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] IAX2 hardware video phone |
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On Sat, 31 May 2008, Joseph wrote:
| Quote: | On 06/01/08 10:13, Rob Hillis wrote:
| Quote: | | Quote: | The only option I have seen is Grandstream GXV3000; it works with Asterisk but it is SIP phone.
So to traverse the firewall using "IAX2" I need to connect it to an internal asterisk box or make a "Swiss cheese"
out of a firewall.
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It's the only one I'm aware of too, and having been bitten badly by the
Grandstream's superior ability to crash, hang, stuff up phone calls and
otherwise behave badly, the only recommendation I ever have for them is
to NOT use them. Whilst I haven't used a GXV3000 for long enough to
know how much the Grandstream instability applies to this phone, I've
had more than enough experience with GXP-2000s and BT200s.
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Thanks for the input.
I've read some reviews and from what I've read the Video is OK but the voice quality is not impressive.
Is anybody using this model and can provide real life experience with GXV3000 model?
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I've not used the GXV3000 yet - but they are almost cheap enough in the UK
for me to get a pair to "play"...
But I have installed several sites worth of GXP2000 and BT200 phones (and
a few other minor Grandstream products) I quite like them - but they have
had a bit of a bad rap in the past, and I think probably rightly so -
early hardware was of questionable quality, and early software was
similar. Audio quality is not the best, but it's more than adequate. One
thing I've "learned" is to not put new software on very old hardware, but
the newer hardware platforms have been solid for me - saying that, they're
only in "modest" installations of between 20-40 phones on a site with
"average" reception use on a GXP2000, and right now, I can't find a phone
with the same feature level for the cost - I also find it hard where I
live & work (rural england!) to persuade companies to spend more on better
quality phones too, so that's another factor for me...
(So if you're in the UK and have a lot of Grandstream phones you're
throwing out, I'll take them off your hands 
Gordon |
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mgraves at mstvp.com
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| Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:49 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] IAX2 hardware video phone |
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On Sat, 31 May 2008 23:47:50 -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:
| Quote: | Question for Michael Graves (or anyone that can answer), I have two
big boxes of old HP thin clients. What do you do to recycle them?
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Steve,
Nothing really. Perhaps "rescue" is the better term.
A friend of mine used to work at a major broacast firm who was
decommissioning a system that used these items. Their corp IT policy
was to pay Dell to recycle anythign PC related. We merely saved tham
that expense.
In the case where the systems boot image had been modified by adding
licensed software it would be good to flash them back to their original
state just to be legal.
I had a dozen of these at one time. They make great little embedded
systems for Asterisk, m0n0wall, NTP servers, NAS hosts for backup, etc.
I've noticed that when available on Ebay they always fetch a decent
price, so demand is constant.
Michael
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http://blog.mgraves.org
o713-861-4005
c713-201-1262
sip:mjgraves at pixelpower.onsip.com
skype mjgraves
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sip at arcdiv.com
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| Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:45 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] IAX2 hardware video phone |
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Joseph wrote:
| Quote: | On 06/01/08 10:13, Rob Hillis wrote:
| Quote: | | Quote: | The only option I have seen is Grandstream GXV3000; it works with Asterisk but it is SIP phone.
So to traverse the firewall using "IAX2" I need to connect it to an internal asterisk box or make a "Swiss cheese"
out of a firewall.
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It's the only one I'm aware of too, and having been bitten badly by the
Grandstream's superior ability to crash, hang, stuff up phone calls and
otherwise behave badly, the only recommendation I ever have for them is
to NOT use them. Whilst I haven't used a GXV3000 for long enough to
know how much the Grandstream instability applies to this phone, I've
had more than enough experience with GXP-2000s and BT200s.
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Thanks for the input.
I've read some reviews and from what I've read the Video is OK but the voice quality is not impressive.
Is anybody using this model and can provide real life experience with GXV3000 model?
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We've got some GXV3000s around. Overall, the voice quality isn't bad.
It's no Polycom, but it's as good as the rest of the Grandstream line --
no better, no worse. Video quality is actually excellent, and it's a
nice design.
The firmware, however, has Grandstream's usual issues and bugs. The
biggest one that annoys us is that the screensaver for the LCD works
when you boot up the phone. However, after the phone rings, the
screensaver turns off and won't work again until you reboot the phone.
It also suffers the same issues with most of the Grandstream's regarding
NAT. They seem to be unable to do a keep-alive through a firewall to
keep a proper port open, so they'll routinely lose their RTP streams
after a short period of active time. We've had to port-forward incoming
RTP ports directly to the inside Grandstreams, which makes DHCP
unusable. However, that did solve the RTP issues.
We've had that issues with all the Grandstreams, though.
Our staple phones are still Snom 320s. Inexpensive, durable, and
reliable. But no video.
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syscon at interbaun.com
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| Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:27 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] IAX2 hardware video phone |
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On 05/31/08 23:47, Steve Totaro wrote:
| Quote: | A local Asterisk server is the best way to do this. That being said,
the WRT54G and all of the other WiFi APs that can run dd-wrt or
Openwrt can actually be Asterisk servers. I have done it but never
went so far as to register a single phone. Not sure how it would
scale.
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I actually have WRT54GL running WhiteRussina on it with some graphical interface; I've added 1GB SD card to it
but it seems to me there is not enough room for asterisk. The files are being installed into main memory not SD
card.
Is anybody running Asterisk on WRT54GL?
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Question for Michael Graves (or anyone that can answer), I have two
big boxes of old HP thin clients. What do you do to recycle them?
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You can turn them into a firewall.
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brianc at palaver.net
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| Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:53 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] IAX2 hardware video phone |
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Joseph wrote:
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I actually have WRT54GL running WhiteRussina on it with some graphical interface; I've added 1GB SD card to it
but it seems to me there is not enough room for asterisk. The files are being installed into main memory not SD
card.
Is anybody running Asterisk on WRT54GL?
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I have run Asterisk on small wireless routers made by Linksys, Asus, and
Netgear.
Once I found the Netgear WGT634U, which has a header on the mobo to
attach a serial port, as well as USB, I haven't used anything else.
They run asterisk just fine; you have to make symlinks (each time you
boot) so that the various system locations used by asterisk will point
to memory on the flash drive instead of main memory.
I am running openWRT Kamikaze SVN-trunk, with Asterisk SVN-trunk. It
runs just fine and is in fact my primary home Asterisk server.
B. |
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