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simon-asterisk at uc.org Guest
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:03 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] measuring network quality in the field |
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What open source tools are people using to quantitatively measure how
well QoS/traffic shaping is performing out in the field, and what call
quality people are experiencing in terms of jitter and packet loss?
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abalashov at evaristes... Guest
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:12 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] measuring network quality in the field |
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Simon P. Ditner wrote:
Quote: | What open source tools are
people using to quantitatively measure how
well QoS/traffic shaping is performing out in the field, and what call
quality people are experiencing in terms of jitter and packet loss?
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tzafrir.cohen at xorco... Guest
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:11 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] measuring network quality in the field |
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On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 05:03:01PM -0400, Simon P. Ditner wrote:
Quote: | What open source tools are people using to quantitatively measure how
well QoS/traffic shaping is performing out in the field, and what call
quality people are experiencing in terms of jitter and packet loss?
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Maybe ntop?
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stotaro at totarotechn... Guest
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:25 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] measuring network quality in the field |
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On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Tzafrir Cohen
<tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com> wrote:
Quote: | On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 05:03:01PM -0400, Simon P. Ditner wrote:
Quote: | What open source tools are people using to quantitatively measure how
well QoS/traffic shaping is performing out in the field, and what call
quality people are experiencing in terms of jitter and packet loss?
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Maybe ntop?
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Maybe SNMP?
I find that many times it pays to work with the net admin, I find that
many have a Cisco router with SDM GUI, usually with no traffic
shaping, just a basic connectivity setup.
3Com Network Supervisor is free and pretty useful if you have a Winows
machine to run it on and your devices are setup for SNMPv1.
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Steve T |
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tzafrir.cohen at xorco... Guest
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:06 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] measuring network quality in the field |
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On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 11:25:44AM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:
Quote: | On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Tzafrir Cohen
<tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com> wrote:
Quote: | On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 05:03:01PM -0400, Simon P. Ditner wrote:
Quote: | What open source tools are people using to quantitatively measure how
well QoS/traffic shaping is performing out in the field, and what call
quality people are experiencing in terms of jitter and packet loss?
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Maybe ntop?
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Maybe SNMP?
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To monitor what data, exactly? SNMP is a potential way to get data from
various hosts. But how do the hosts actually get the data?
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stotaro at totarotechn... Guest
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:16 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] measuring network quality in the field |
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On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Tzafrir Cohen
<tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com> wrote:
Quote: | On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 11:25:44AM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:
Quote: | On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Tzafrir Cohen
<tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com> wrote:
Quote: | On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 05:03:01PM -0400, Simon P. Ditner wrote:
Quote: | What open source tools are people using to quantitatively measure how
well QoS/traffic shaping is performing out in the field, and what call
quality people are experiencing in terms of jitter and packet loss?
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Maybe ntop?
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Maybe SNMP?
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To monitor what data, exactly? SNMP is a potential way to get data from
various hosts. But how do the hosts actually get the data?
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I always enjoy how you snip my posts.
I suggest trying google to find hundreds if not thousands of ways....
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Steve T |
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nachogomez at gmail.com Guest
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:10 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] measuring network quality in the field |
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Stanford University has a great resource of Internet/Network monitoring at
http://www.slac.stanford.edu/xorg/nmtf/nmtf-tools.html and
http://www.slac.stanford.edu/comp/net/wan-mon/tutorial.html
Maybe you can find something like you are looking for...
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Steve Totaro <
stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:
Quote: | On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Tzafrir Cohen
<tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com> wrote:
Quote: | On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 11:25:44AM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:
Quote: | On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Tzafrir Cohen
<tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com> wrote:
Quote: | On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 05:03:01PM -0400, Simon P. Ditner wrote:
Quote: | What open source tools are people using to quantitatively measure how
well QoS/traffic shaping is performing out in the field, and what
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Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | Quote: | quality people are experiencing in terms of jitter and packet loss?
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Maybe ntop?
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Maybe SNMP?
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To monitor what data, exactly? SNMP is a potential way to get data from
various hosts. But how do the hosts actually get the data?
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I always enjoy how you snip my posts.
I suggest trying google to find hundreds if not thousands of ways....
Thanks,
Steve T
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tzafrir.cohen at xorco... Guest
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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:36 pm Post subject: [asterisk-users] measuring network quality in the field |
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On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:16:53PM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:
Quote: | On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Tzafrir Cohen
<tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com> wrote:
Quote: | On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 11:25:44AM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:
Quote: | On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Tzafrir Cohen
<tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com> wrote:
Quote: | On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 05:03:01PM -0400, Simon P. Ditner wrote:
Quote: | What open source tools are people using to quantitatively measure how
well QoS/traffic shaping is performing out in the field, and what call
quality people are experiencing in terms of jitter and packet loss?
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Maybe ntop?
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Maybe SNMP?
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To monitor what data, exactly? SNMP is a potential way to get data from
various hosts. But how do the hosts actually get the data?
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I always enjoy how you snip my posts.
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Yes, specifically when you quote my signature.
I snipped methods for gathring information that is available through
SNMP already. But is this information useful?
Specifically, I don't care about fragmantion and packet loss of all
packets. Just of those in the relevant streams.
ntop tries to keep rtack of all packets and then give some useful
details from that. It has a reputation for being a memory hog. A simple
apt search on my system shows up a package called "darkstat" which
describes itself as "known to be smaller (in terms of memory footprint)
and stabler than ntop."
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thp at westhawk.co.uk Guest
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:48 am Post subject: [asterisk-users] measuring network quality in the field |
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On 28 Jun 2008, at 18:36, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
Quote: | On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:16:53PM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:
Quote: | On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Tzafrir Cohen
<tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com> wrote:
Quote: | On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 11:25:44AM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote:
Quote: | On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Tzafrir Cohen
<tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com> wrote:
Quote: | On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 05:03:01PM -0400, Simon P. Ditner wrote:
Quote: | What open source tools are people using to quantitatively
measure how
well QoS/traffic shaping is performing out in the field, and
what call
quality people are experiencing in terms of jitter and packet
loss?
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Maybe ntop?
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Maybe SNMP?
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To monitor what data, exactly? SNMP is a potential way to get data
from
various hosts. But how do the hosts actually get the data?
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I always enjoy how you snip my posts.
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Yes, specifically when you quote my signature.
I snipped methods for gathring information that is available through
SNMP already. But is this information useful?
Specifically, I don't care about fragmantion and packet loss of all
packets. Just of those in the relevant streams.
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RMON should be able deliver this sort of filtering for SNMP, many
routers
support RMON, but it takes some setting up to get useful results.
Likewise there are some vendor specific MIBs that may be useful:
"Cisco IOS provides QoS statistics in its CISCO-CLASS-BASED-QOS-MIB"
There is something to be said for monitoring QoS on the device that is
enforcing it.
In theory at least you should get a more accurate picture of the
situation and the
reasons behind it.
Conversely ntop running on a separate PC may give a more
'independent' version of
events.
Tim. |
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