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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:48 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] g729 sounds files - voicemail Reply with quote

I've pretty much standardized on using g729 as the codec of choice for
the users connecting to my FS installation, primarily due to the users I
have that are on very slow connections and all of my carriers support
g729, so no need to transcode.

The sounds files that comes with FS are raw PCM files. Since FS is
unable to currently transcode to/from g729, is there any way to use
sounds files that are in the g729 format, such that it is technically
still "pass-through" on the FS side and no transcoding is required?

Ideally, I'm looking to install pre-coded g729 files for voicemail and
have FS playback those files when someone logs into voicemail. I haven't
tried simply replacing the files in the sounds directory, what I would
prefer is to have a separate directory structure with g729 sound files
and have FS detect the codec in use and automatically playback the files
for the appropriate codec?

Thanks Much...

Gabriel Kuri


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:10 am    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] g729 sounds files - voicemail Reply with quote

Hi Gabriel,

The problem I see is that g729 is protected by very expensive patents.

If FreeSWITCH were to encode their sound files in g729, they would
have to pay a base fee of at least 10 or 15 thousand dollars (that's last time i
checked, and i don't recall if this is a yearly payment or not), plus a smaller fee
for each file they encoded, and would likely have to pay an additional fee each
time the files were downloaded.

You may have to do the encoding yourself on this one...

Once they are encoded, the plan sounds feasible.. I don't know the status on
g729 in FreeSWITCH though.

-lc

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Gabriel Kuri <gkuri@ieee.org (gkuri@ieee.org)> wrote:
Quote:
I've pretty much standardized on using g729 as the codec of choice for
the users connecting to my FS installation, primarily due to the users I
have that are on very slow connections and all of my carriers support
g729, so no need to transcode.

The sounds files that comes with FS are raw PCM files. Since FS is
unable to currently transcode to/from g729, is there any way to use
sounds files that are in the g729 format, such that it is technically
still "pass-through" on the FS side and no transcoding is required?

Ideally, I'm looking to install pre-coded g729 files for voicemail and
have FS playback those files when someone logs into voicemail. I haven't
tried simply replacing the files in the sounds directory, what I would
prefer is to have a separate directory structure with g729 sound files
and have FS detect the codec in use and automatically playback the files
for the appropriate codec?

Thanks Much...

Gabriel Kuri


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:44 am    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] g729 sounds files - voicemail Reply with quote

Hi Lucas,

I definitely don't want to get myself or the FS community into trouble
for patent infringement. I'll look into the patent requirements for
using g729 as I'm describing, although what is interesting is that
asterisk already does this without charging a fee each time someone
downloads asterisk. Currently, you can download asterisk and avail of
their g729 sound files in pass through mode without paying any licensing
fees, although I'm not sure if they already paid the fees to Sipro or it
doesn't fall under the patent licensing since it's pass-through.

Getting the sounds files into their respective format aside, you say my
plan sounds feasible, but I can't figure out how to tell FS to check the
codec in use and playback the sound file for the appropriate codec. So
for example, someone dials in to check voicemail, and let's say they're
using G.726-32 and I had files encoded with G.726-32 in a folder
'sounds/voicemail/g726-32/', how do I tell FS to use those sounds files
based on the user's codec?

Thanks,

Gabriel Kuri


Lucas Cornelisse wrote:
Quote:
Hi Gabriel,

The problem I see is that g729 is protected by very expensive patents.

If FreeSWITCH were to encode their sound files in g729, they would
have to pay a base fee of at least 10 or 15 thousand dollars (that's
last time i
checked, and i don't recall if this is a yearly payment or not), plus
a smaller fee
for each file they encoded, and would likely have to pay an additional
fee each
time the files were downloaded.

You may have to do the encoding yourself on this one...

Once they are encoded, the plan sounds feasible.. I don't know the
status on
g729 in FreeSWITCH though.

-lc

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Gabriel Kuri <gkuri@ieee.org
<mailto:gkuri@ieee.org>> wrote:

I've pretty much standardized on using g729 as the codec of choice for
the users connecting to my FS installation, primarily due to the
users I
have that are on very slow connections and all of my carriers support
g729, so no need to transcode.

The sounds files that comes with FS are raw PCM files. Since FS is
unable to currently transcode to/from g729, is there any way to use
sounds files that are in the g729 format, such that it is technically
still "pass-through" on the FS side and no transcoding is required?

Ideally, I'm looking to install pre-coded g729 files for voicemail and
have FS playback those files when someone logs into voicemail. I
haven't
tried simply replacing the files in the sounds directory, what I would
prefer is to have a separate directory structure with g729 sound files
and have FS detect the codec in use and automatically playback the
files
for the appropriate codec?

Thanks Much...

Gabriel Kuri


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:49 am    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] g729 sounds files - voicemail Reply with quote

http://www.asteriskguru.com/tools/audio_conversion.php

/b

On Sep 20, 2008, at 11:45 AM, Gabriel Kuri wrote:

Quote:
Hi Lucas,

I definitely don't want to get myself or the FS community into trouble
for patent infringement. I'll look into the patent requirements for
using g729 as I'm describing, although what is interesting is that
asterisk already does this without charging a fee each time someone
downloads asterisk. Currently, you can download asterisk and avail of
their g729 sound files in pass through mode without paying any
licensing
fees, although I'm not sure if they already paid the fees to Sipro
or it
doesn't fall under the patent licensing since it's pass-through.

Getting the sounds files into their respective format aside, you say
my
plan sounds feasible, but I can't figure out how to tell FS to check
the
codec in use and playback the sound file for the appropriate codec. So
for example, someone dials in to check voicemail, and let's say
they're
using G.726-32 and I had files encoded with G.726-32 in a folder
'sounds/voicemail/g726-32/', how do I tell FS to use those sounds
files
based on the user's codec?

Thanks,

Gabriel Kuri


Lucas Cornelisse wrote:
Quote:
Hi Gabriel,

The problem I see is that g729 is protected by very expensive
patents.

If FreeSWITCH were to encode their sound files in g729, they would
have to pay a base fee of at least 10 or 15 thousand dollars (that's
last time i
checked, and i don't recall if this is a yearly payment or not), plus
a smaller fee
for each file they encoded, and would likely have to pay an
additional
fee each
time the files were downloaded.

You may have to do the encoding yourself on this one...

Once they are encoded, the plan sounds feasible.. I don't know the
status on
g729 in FreeSWITCH though.

-lc

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Gabriel Kuri <gkuri@ieee.org
<mailto:gkuri@ieee.org>> wrote:

I've pretty much standardized on using g729 as the codec of
choice for
the users connecting to my FS installation, primarily due to the
users I
have that are on very slow connections and all of my carriers
support
g729, so no need to transcode.

The sounds files that comes with FS are raw PCM files. Since FS is
unable to currently transcode to/from g729, is there any way to
use
sounds files that are in the g729 format, such that it is
technically
still "pass-through" on the FS side and no transcoding is
required?

Ideally, I'm looking to install pre-coded g729 files for
voicemail and
have FS playback those files when someone logs into voicemail. I
haven't
tried simply replacing the files in the sounds directory, what I
would
prefer is to have a separate directory structure with g729 sound
files
and have FS detect the codec in use and automatically playback the
files
for the appropriate codec?

Thanks Much...

Gabriel Kuri


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:50 am    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] g729 sounds files - voicemail Reply with quote

Modify the sounds.xml and remove all the .wav extensions... it'll use
mod_native_sound to play the file of the exact codec of the channel.

/b

On Sep 20, 2008, at 11:45 AM, Gabriel Kuri wrote:

Quote:

Getting the sounds files into their respective format aside, you say
my
plan sounds feasible, but I can't figure out how to tell FS to check
the
codec in use and playback the sound file for the appropriate codec. So
for example, someone dials in to check voicemail, and let's say
they're
using G.726-32 and I had files encoded with G.726-32 in a folder
'sounds/voicemail/g726-32/', how do I tell FS to use those sounds
files
based on the user's codec?


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