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[brian at freeswitch.com]

FreeSWITCHers,

Most of you already know me, but for anyone that doesn’t - I’m one of the founders of FreeSWITCH, and I’m the primary administrator for the mailing list.

This mailing list has served the community well for almost 15 years now. As the mailing list has grown continuously larger and been stretched to the limits of its capabilities, it has been running into bigger issues. Especially in the last year, we’ve seen numerous issues that prevent people from joining and participating – bounces, unintended unsubscribes, spam filtering, and more. 

We didn’t want to shut down the mailing list without having a replacement set up, and a forum was the obvious choice – the community has been requesting a proper forum for years now. In addition to being more easily accessible and searchable, we hope the forum will simply be a better experience for everyone using it compared to the mailing list. 

To join the new forum, visit forum.signalwire.community - it uses SSO from your free SignalWire account, which allows us to be more lenient with moderation because we've got an assumed level of trust, and also reduces the overall level of spam in the forums. We've got the forum set so you can view without an account, so check it out with no obligation.

If you’d like to receive updates via email, you can set that up in your user preferences on the forum. You can even reply to forum topics via email, though you’ll need to visit the forum to start a new topic (top level post). Also note the digest/summary emails will stop sending if you don’t log into the site periodically: currently you need to log in every 180 days.

Not interested in the forum, but still looking for community spaces? You’re welcome to join our Community Slack, join the subreddit, or attend our Office Hours. 

If you want to continue using the mailing list until we sunset it, you’re welcome to do so. We’ve disabled new sign ups as of today, and we’ll formally stop supporting it as of March 15, 2023. This should give everyone plenty of time to set up in our other community spaces. 


Thanks,


/b



--



Brian West | Co-founder and Developer
Email: brian@freeswitch.com (brian@freeswitch.com)

[covici at ccs.covici.com]

This is very bad for me, I have lots of problems with these forums --
very not accessible and very clumsy.

Often I can't even navigate these things.

I don't think I have proper credentials -- I have a signal wire
account somewhere, but don't use it that much.

I have been using this platform for many years and I don't want to use
any other platform.

On Tue, 03 Jan 2023 16:26:06 -0500,
Brian West wrote:

[brian at freeswitch.com]

John,


We did look at the accessibility of the forum software we choose, it should work with screen readers or other tools that are used for accessibility on your PC,  Let me know if you have any issues with it.


Thanks,


/b







 


On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 4:55 PM John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com (covici@ccs.covici.com)> wrote:

[clive at lansink.co.nz]

Hi everyone.

First I would comment that I am a screen reader user and I have to say the forum chosen for the Signalwire community is really one of the best from a screen reader point of view. So well done for that.

I have to say email is great for people who just want to quickly glance at the incoming traffic, delete what is of no interest and maybe file or note anything useful. The benefit is you're just working from your in-box dealing with whatever comes in during the day and you don't have to think twice about it. That's why I prefer email to forums where you have to go there to check them out, which means remembering to actually do that. But at least if we're moving to a forum it's good that it is one that works well with a screen reader.

Cheers.


Clive Lansink
Email: Clive@Lansink.Co.NZ
Phone: +64 9 520-4242
Mobile: +64 21 663-999

-----Original message-----
From: Brian West <brian@freeswitch.com>
To: FreeSWITCH Users Help <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org>
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Retiring the FreeSWITCH Mailing list
Reply-to: FreeSWITCH Users Help <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org>
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2023 19:46:26 -0600

John,

We did look at the accessibility of the forum software we choose, it should
work with screen readers or other tools that are used for accessibility on
your PC, Let me know if you have any issues with it.

Thanks,

/b





On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 4:55 PM John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:

[covici at ccs.covici.com]

Another problem I seem to have is that your forum does not work with
my password manager -- I am using lastpass.

On Tue, 03 Jan 2023 16:26:06 -0500,
Brian West wrote:

[covici at ccs.covici.com]

I tried to join the forum, but it requires a captcha and I could not figure out the challenge.  One of the reasons I hate forums.  Can you bypass this for me?


From: FreeSWITCH-users <freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org> On Behalf Of Brian West
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2023 4:26 PM
To: FreeSWITCH Users Help <freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org>
Subject: [Freeswitch-users] Retiring the FreeSWITCH Mailing list


FreeSWITCHers,

Most of you already know me, but for anyone that doesn’t - I’m one of the founders of FreeSWITCH, and I’m the primary administrator for the mailing list.

This mailing list has served the community well for almost 15 years now. As the mailing list has grown continuously larger and been stretched to the limits of its capabilities, it has been running into bigger issues. Especially in the last year, we’ve seen numerous issues that prevent people from joining and participating – bounces, unintended unsubscribes, spam filtering, and more.

We didn’t want to shut down the mailing list without having a replacement set up, and a forum was the obvious choice – the community has been requesting a proper forum for years now. In addition to being more easily accessible and searchable, we hope the forum will simply be a better experience for everyone using it compared to the mailing list.

To join the new forum, visit forum.signalwire.community - it uses SSO from your free SignalWire account, which allows us to be more lenient with moderation because we've got an assumed level of trust, and also reduces the overall level of spam in the forums. We've got the forum set so you can view without an account, so check it out with no obligation.

If you’d like to receive updates via email, you can set that up in your user preferences on the forum. You can even reply to forum topics via email, though you’ll need to visit the forum to start a new topic (top level post). Also note the digest/summary emails will stop sending if you don’t log into the site periodically: currently you need to log in every 180 days.

Not interested in the forum, but still looking for community spaces? You’re welcome to join our Community Slack, join the subreddit, or attend our Office Hours.

If you want to continue using the mailing list until we sunset it, you’re welcome to do so. We’ve disabled new sign ups as of today, and we’ll formally stop supporting it as of March 15, 2023. This should give everyone plenty of time to set up in our other community spaces.

Thanks,

/b




--


Brian West | Co-founder and Developer
Email: brian@freeswitch.com (brian@freeswitch.com)

[gregor at infomedia.si]

Will forum be indexed by Google?


On Wed, 4 Jan 2023 at 06:15, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com (covici@ccs.covici.com)> wrote:

[abalashov at evaristes...]

I do understand that maintaining a mailing list, and all the issues that come with it, is a thankless chore. I run several myself and can relate to the frustration.

However, from my perspective, it is by far the most effective way to engage the broadest swath of users, for reasons already outlined by others. Only a small, hardcore group of forum enthusiasts who particularly like that medium will participate in forums; average people won't bother to keep up with the forum because it requires work.

The net effect is that people only come to ask a specific question, the number of experts usefully answering questions is reduced, and that users don't stay broadly abreast of trends and project info which would otherwise smile out in some way from their inbox.

-- Alex

--
Alex Balashov
Principal Consultant
Evariste Systems LLC
Web: https://evaristesys.com
Tel: +1-706-510-6800


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[brian at freeswitch.com]

Gergor,


Yes it's going to be indexed.


/b


On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 4:26 AM Gregor Nanger <gregor@infomedia.si (gregor@infomedia.si)> wrote:

[brian at freeswitch.com]

We're making a direct effort to foster the tech team here at SignalWire to be able to chime in, answer questions and help those in need. 


Thanks,
/b




On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 11:04 AM Alex Balashov <abalashov@evaristesys.com (abalashov@evaristesys.com)> wrote:

[julf at Julf.com]

+1

On 04/01/2023 18:03, Alex Balashov wrote:

[adrian at a2es.co.uk]

Brian,
Before the list closes, can you point me in a direction where I may get some help with mod_python.  Most simple python scripts work with no issues but I have run into a few anomalies and dare I say bugs whilst trying to use python as an XML handler.
My guess is that very few use python or my questions have been too development orientated for this list.  I have pretty much given up on using python for XML handling, switching to mod_xml_curl instead, but I would like to continue being able to call python from the dialplan, however my difficulty in finding help with python in FreeSWITCH has made me concerned about future support for python.



Kind regards,

Adrian Fretwell

[brian at freeswitch.com]

Adrian,


We didn't write mod_python, we have gone in and tried to fix things related to it, but it wasn't something we focused on, I noticed you have a PR open on this topic, have you come to our twice monthly FreeSWITCH call to discuss?


/b




On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 2:31 PM Adrian Fretwell <adrian@a2es.co.uk (adrian@a2es.co.uk)> wrote:

[adrian at a2es.co.uk]

Hi Brian,
I have learnt something - I wasn't aware of the twice monthly calls.
Despite having taught C programming many years ago, I no longer feel comfortable with it, however, I would be happy to help in maintaining mod_python if I could get a better insight into the module from one of the developers.  I noted the email addresses of the developers listed at the head or mod_python3.c but I would not want to email out of the blue as it were.
Where will I find details of the monthly calls?



Kind regards,

Adrian Fretwell

On 04/01/2023 20:41, Brian West wrote:

[lists at telium.io]

As someone new to FS I too have found it hard to get info on how to reach out to anyone…maybe the website needs and update to show community/communication options

From: FreeSWITCH-users [mailto:freeswitch-users-bounces@lists.freeswitch.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Fretwell
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2023 3:56 PM
To: freeswitch-users@lists.freeswitch.org
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Retiring the FreeSWITCH Mailing list



Hi Brian,
I have learnt something - I wasn't aware of the twice monthly calls.
Despite having taught C programming many years ago, I no longer feel comfortable with it, however, I would be happy to help in maintaining mod_python if I could get a better insight into the module from one of the developers. I noted the email addresses of the developers listed at the head or mod_python3.c but I would not want to email out of the blue as it were.
Where will I find details of the monthly calls?

Kind regards,

Adrian Fretwell
On 04/01/2023 20:41, Brian West wrote: