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[asterisk-users] China vaults past USA in Internet users - now 220 million users in China


 
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 10:27 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] China vaults past USA in Internet users - n Reply with quote

China has surpassed the USA as the No. 1 nation in Internet users.



The number of Chinese on the Internet hit more than 220 million as of
February.
http://mobileanalytics.com/forum/index.php?topic=28.0









I wonder how Americans are going to handle this little turn of events.



What is really interesting in the rest of the article it discusses how
the percentage of penetration for china is 17% of it's 1.3 Billion
population versus 71% penetration of the USA's population of 304 million
people.



So with China expected to increase another 13 million users this month
alone (March 2008) to 233 million users how long before there are more
people using the internet in China than the entire population of the USA
(I'm guessing about 7 months so about the end of this year).



Does anyone in the Asterisk community have a good website for getting
accurate voip minutes or some other field of reference for how
successful voip penetration is in the respective countries? Would be
interesting to see what countries are leading Voip implementation
penetration regardless of whether it is Asterisk or Avaya etc etc.



I know everyone freaked when Trixbox was collecting stats but I think it
would be great for someone to write a small 'anonymous collection
module' that an Asterisk sys-admin could download and install on their
asterisk server which uploaded the stats to a community website.



Even if it just collected number of new installations globally this
would be a huge help to people selling asterisk to their customers who
continually ask "I've heard about this Asterisk open source stuff but
how many are there installed globally anyway?"





Regards,

Dean Collins
dean at cognation.net
Cognation Limited
+1-212-203-4357
+61-2-9016-4652 (Sydney indial)

P.S. In case you are wondering Australia has a piddling little 15m users
but this is against a pop of only 20.5m so the Internet penetration is
actually higher than the USA.

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 9:34 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] China vaults past USA in Internet users - n Reply with quote

On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 2:15 PM, <vision_admin at vision21networks.com> wrote:

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One more thing, Godaddy.com can be seen in China because their website is
hosted on a separate corporate server.

And as it happens, they sell CN domain names. I think you need to
investigate a better hosting company. Unfortunately, one can not be
certain the Cinese govt won't change the blocks that are blocked.
Still, you could do some tests and check it out. I run a site on a
dedicated server that has pages in Traditional and Modern Chinese and
as far as we know, it is seen in China. We also have small site with a
Chinese version on a shared server.

You are welcome to contact me off list if you want to try a test.

/r
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 10:30 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] China vaults past USA in Internet users - n Reply with quote

A special I saw on TV recently about censorship on the internet and
the Chinese government had many younger users, speaking under
anonymity, saying that they all use some method of getting around the
blocks by using proxies or tunneling via SSH. I think it is only the
first gen. computer user's that do not have that common knowledge.

They used Google results for "Falun Gong" both through the Government
filters and through a proxy as well as "Tienanmen Square" The results
were, not surprisingly, very different.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 11:00 AM, Matt Watson <mwatson at becon.org> wrote:
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What Godaddy.com has told you is more or less correct.

Its not their fault that Chinese visitors cannot hit your pages... the internet is China is highly censored, and quite often they firewall even very large big name sites like BBC news. Typically they block sites that have any type discuss any type of political matters that might be going on in China, or blog sites where chinese citizens might "speak out". I'm not saying your site is one of these, but if they are infact doing it by IP address, its perfectly possible that your site just happens to be hosted on the same IP (or even IP block) as a site they decided to firewall - or perhaps a site used to occupy the same address space as you and they just haven't noticed its no longer there and un-firewalled it.

And yes, godaddy.com cannot guarentee that if you change IP addresses that the new one will work... just like they can't guarentee that myself or any visitors to my home will be able to access your website from my internet connection... i could firewall IPs from my home just like the chinese government can firewall sites from all of their citizens. There is a chance that changing IPs will make it work, but theres also a chance the new IP will be firewalled too...

Just google for "Great Firewall of China"

--
Matt
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