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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:19 am    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] mod_g729 Reply with quote

If anyone want to play with it - http://freehg.org/u/deepwalker/fs_g729/

You use it on your own risk and compile it yourself.
If you want to develop it - write me.

I wrote it for russian community.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:40 am    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] mod_g729 Reply with quote

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You use it on your own risk
Actually, the fact that this is in this post at all SHOULD tell you NOT
to use it. Unless you have proper licensing for g.729, this is likely to
cause issues.

-Ray

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:45 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] mod_g729 Reply with quote

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Raymond Chandler
<intralanman@freeswitch.org> wrote:
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You use it on your own risk

Also, G.729 is patent encumbered big-time. Instead of lining the
pockets of lawyers and mega-corporations by perpetuating the use of a
crusty old codec we should all twist arms and get our providers,
device makers, etc. to use Speex.
-MC

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Actually, the fact that this is in this post at all SHOULD tell you NOT to
use it. Unless you have proper licensing for g.729, this is likely to cause
issues.

-Ray

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:19 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] mod_g729 Reply with quote

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You use it on your own risk

Also, G.729 is patent encumbered big-time. Instead of lining the
pockets of lawyers and mega-corporations by perpetuating the use of a
crusty old codec we should all twist arms and get our providers,
device makers, etc. to use Speex.

Yeah.. let me know when you get Cisco to add Speex support to IOS! Wink


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:19 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] mod_g729 Reply with quote

They added iLBC.

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On Jan 22, 2009, at 3:11 PM, Gregory Boehnlein wrote:

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Yeah.. let me know when you get Cisco to add Speex support to IOS! Wink


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:32 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] mod_g729 Reply with quote

On Jan 22, 2009, at 1:11 PM, "Gregory Boehnlein" <damin@nacs.net> wrote:

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You use it on your own risk

Also, G.729 is patent encumbered big-time. Instead of lining the
pockets of lawyers and mega-corporations by perpetuating the use of a
crusty old codec we should all twist arms and get our providers,
device makers, etc. to use Speex.

Yeah.. let me know when you get Cisco to add Speex support to IOS! Wink

Who needs Crisco anyway? :p

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:35 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] mod_g729 Reply with quote

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:
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They added iLBC.

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Very true.

I wish I knew who got them to do that!

Speex would be awesome but I'm not holding my breath....

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:38 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] mod_g729 Reply with quote

Speex, while nice I think it would use more resources in some cases.

/b

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Speex would be awesome but I'm not holding my breath....


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:43 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] mod_g729 Reply with quote

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:
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Speex, while nice I think it would use more resources in some cases.

True. Occasionally more resources, always less licensing fees... Wink
-MC
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/b

On Jan 22, 2009, at 3:31 PM, Kristian Kielhofner wrote:

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Speex would be awesome but I'm not holding my breath....


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:02 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] mod_g729 Reply with quote

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Michael Collins <msc@freeswitch.org> wrote:
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On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:
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Speex, while nice I think it would use more resources in some cases.

True. Occasionally more resources, always less licensing fees... Wink
-MC

Less money on licensing, more money on DSP/processor resources. Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:08 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] mod_g729 Reply with quote

On Jan 22, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Kristian Kielhofner <kristian.kielhofner@gmail.com
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wrote:

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On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Michael Collins
<msc@freeswitch.org> wrote:
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On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org>
wrote:
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Speex, while nice I think it would use more resources in some cases.

True. Occasionally more resources, always less licensing fees... Wink
-MC

Less money on licensing, more money on DSP/processor resources. Smile


That delta shrinks as processing power gets cheaper. I wonder if g729
licenses will get cheaper over time as well? I wouldn't take that
bet. Wink

-MC
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:16 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] mod_g729 Reply with quote

Not really what I would call a break... but at some point in the $1.6
million range you stop paying.

/b

On Jan 22, 2009, at 5:13 PM, Kristian Kielhofner wrote:

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Also remembers what happens to volume pricing. More of a break on
licenses...


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:18 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] mod_g729 Reply with quote

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Michael S Collins <msc@freeswitch.org> wrote:
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That delta shrinks as processing power gets cheaper. I wonder if g729
licenses will get cheaper over time as well? I wouldn't take that
bet. Wink

-MC

Also remembers what happens to volume pricing. More of a break on licenses...

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:37 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] mod_g729 Reply with quote

On Jan 22, 2009, at 3:15 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:

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Not really what I would call a break... but at some point in the $1.6
million range you stop paying.

/b

Like I said, OSS FTW baby!
-MC
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Also remembers what happens to volume pricing. More of a break on
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:49 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] mod_g729 Reply with quote

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Michael S Collins <msc@freeswitch.org> wrote:
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On Jan 22, 2009, at 3:15 PM, Brian West <brian@freeswitch.org> wrote:

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Not really what I would call a break... but at some point in the $1.6
million range you stop paying.

/b

Like I said, OSS FTW baby!
-MC

Quite the contrary.

If Speex means you require faster, more capable DSPs, you are going to
continue paying for them per unit. At $1.6mil you stop paying for
G.729 licenses (basically a fixed cost at that point, regardless of
volume or quantity).

I'm sure most of the big guys paying for G.729 have no problem with that.

I love OSS and Speex as much as any of us; I'm just trying to play
devil's advocate and attempt to explain some of the strategy from
those continuing to pay for G.729...

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