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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:39 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Paging for analoge devices Reply with quote

Hi All;

Just would like to know if Boger, UPAM, and Onkyo can
be connected to the FXS ports and take extension from
asterisk?

And why Onkyo is needed if I need to use horn
speakers?

Regards
Bilal

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bilal ghayyad wrote:

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Steve Totaro wrote:
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On 4/5/08, bilal ghayyad
<bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
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Anyone knows (tried) to use Page for
analoge
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phone(zaptel channel - fxs)? If yes,
how?
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Bogen Rulez

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Sorry I did not understand any thing from
your
reply.
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Google is your friend. I discovered very
quickly what
they were
talking
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about by googling.

You may be able to find the device a little
cheaper, but
without
the brand
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name, by searching for "UPAM". Typically, these
will have
the
"AT&T" or
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"Lucent" names branded on them, despite being
identical and
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manufactured by exactly the same entity.

--
Tilghman


Yes, but Bogen sounds so much better than UPAM Wink

(noted for future paging needs, I am doing a
concrete factory
next
moth)
Quote:

Thanks,
Steve Totaro


Just thinking about it, I could pick up a nice
refurbed Onkyo and some
horn speakers and create an industrial paging system
complete with a
couple of zones for much less than any other over
priced "paging
solution".

A and B speakers could be used for two zones and
balance could be used
for two other zones.

http://www.ecost.com/detail.aspx?edp=40236464&source=EWBBASE&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=40236464

Thanks,
Steve



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:06 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Paging for analoge devices Reply with quote

Bilal,

No, I do not think that you can make this work. You would obviously
need auto answer or how else would the audio come out of the speakers?

I thought you were talking about overhead paging.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:49 AM, bilal ghayyad <bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
Dear Steve;

I was asking about the ability to do paging on the
normal analoge phones (which is connected to fxs
ports, and it already receive and originate calls on
the system). So does that work? If yes, do I need
auto-answer? If I need auto-answer here, then I will
face a problem in the calls which coming normally to
the analoge phone (when someone dial that extension).

Any advise?

Regards
Bilal
--- Steve Totaro <stotaro at totarotechnologies.com>
wrote:



Quote:
Bogen is the defacto standard in quality paging
equipment.

FXS port should work just fine with auto-answer
using any AMP.

The Onkyo suggestion was just an idea for a cheaper
but probably
higher quality audio with more volume in a loud
environment. I was
not saying you "needed" to use Onkyo, just that you
could build a
paging system with a regular tuner, possibly have
better sound, and do
it cheaper than going Bogen.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 6:39 AM, bilal ghayyad
<bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
Hi All;

Just would like to know if Boger, UPAM, and Onkyo
can
Quote:
be connected to the FXS ports and take extension
from
Quote:
asterisk?

And why Onkyo is needed if I need to use horn
speakers?

Regards
Bilal

---------------

Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
bilal ghayyad wrote:

Quote:
Quote:
Steve Totaro wrote:
Quote:
On 4/5/08, bilal ghayyad
<bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
Quote:

Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Anyone knows (tried) to use Page for
analoge
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
phone(zaptel channel - fxs)? If
yes,
Quote:
how?
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:

Bogen Rulez

Quote:
Quote:

Sorry I did not understand any thing
from
Quote:
your
reply.
Quote:
Quote:

Quote:
Google is your friend. I discovered very
quickly what
they were
talking
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
about by googling.

You may be able to find the device a little
cheaper, but
without
the brand
Quote:
Quote:
name, by searching for "UPAM". Typically,
these
Quote:
will have
the
"AT&T" or
Quote:
Quote:
"Lucent" names branded on them, despite
being
Quote:
identical and
Quote:
Quote:
manufactured by exactly the same entity.

--
Tilghman


Yes, but Bogen sounds so much better than UPAM
Wink
Quote:
Quote:

(noted for future paging needs, I am doing a
concrete factory
next
moth)
Quote:

Thanks,
Steve Totaro


Just thinking about it, I could pick up a nice
refurbed Onkyo and some
horn speakers and create an industrial paging
system
Quote:
complete with a
couple of zones for much less than any other over
priced "paging
solution".

A and B speakers could be used for two zones and
balance could be used
for two other zones.



http://www.ecost.com/detail.aspx?edp=40236464&source=EWBBASE&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=40236464
Quote:
Quote:

Thanks,
Steve








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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:08 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Paging for analoge devices Reply with quote

Bilal,

Sorry to reply to my reply but if you can register multiple accounts
and setup auto answer on one of those accounts, it could work. The
problem is, I am not sure if there are any ATAs that have this
ability.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Steve Totaro
<stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:
Quote:
Bilal,

No, I do not think that you can make this work. You would obviously
need auto answer or how else would the audio come out of the speakers?

I thought you were talking about overhead paging.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro



On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:49 AM, bilal ghayyad <bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
Dear Steve;

I was asking about the ability to do paging on the
normal analoge phones (which is connected to fxs
ports, and it already receive and originate calls on
the system). So does that work? If yes, do I need
auto-answer? If I need auto-answer here, then I will
face a problem in the calls which coming normally to
the analoge phone (when someone dial that extension).

Any advise?

Regards
Bilal
--- Steve Totaro <stotaro at totarotechnologies.com>
wrote:



Quote:
Bogen is the defacto standard in quality paging
equipment.

FXS port should work just fine with auto-answer
using any AMP.

The Onkyo suggestion was just an idea for a cheaper
but probably
higher quality audio with more volume in a loud
environment. I was
not saying you "needed" to use Onkyo, just that you
could build a
paging system with a regular tuner, possibly have
better sound, and do
it cheaper than going Bogen.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 6:39 AM, bilal ghayyad
<bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
Hi All;

Just would like to know if Boger, UPAM, and Onkyo
can
Quote:
be connected to the FXS ports and take extension
from
Quote:
asterisk?

And why Onkyo is needed if I need to use horn
speakers?

Regards
Bilal

---------------

Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
bilal ghayyad wrote:

Quote:
Quote:
Steve Totaro wrote:
Quote:
On 4/5/08, bilal ghayyad
<bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
Quote:

Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Anyone knows (tried) to use Page for
analoge
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
phone(zaptel channel - fxs)? If
yes,
Quote:
how?
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:

Bogen Rulez

Quote:
Quote:

Sorry I did not understand any thing
from
Quote:
your
reply.
Quote:
Quote:

Quote:
Google is your friend. I discovered very
quickly what
they were
talking
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
about by googling.

You may be able to find the device a little
cheaper, but
without
the brand
Quote:
Quote:
name, by searching for "UPAM". Typically,
these
Quote:
will have
the
"AT&T" or
Quote:
Quote:
"Lucent" names branded on them, despite
being
Quote:
identical and
Quote:
Quote:
manufactured by exactly the same entity.

--
Tilghman


Yes, but Bogen sounds so much better than UPAM
Wink
Quote:
Quote:

(noted for future paging needs, I am doing a
concrete factory
next
moth)
Quote:

Thanks,
Steve Totaro


Just thinking about it, I could pick up a nice
refurbed Onkyo and some
horn speakers and create an industrial paging
system
Quote:
complete with a
couple of zones for much less than any other over
priced "paging
solution".

A and B speakers could be used for two zones and
balance could be used
for two other zones.



http://www.ecost.com/detail.aspx?edp=40236464&source=EWBBASE&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=40236464
Quote:
Quote:

Thanks,
Steve








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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:28 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Paging for analoge devices Reply with quote

Quote:
Quote:
need auto answer or how else would the audio come out of
the speakers?

One of the lowest cost solutions I've used for this is a Grandstream BT-200.
You can buy the phone for around $50, it supports auto answer, and it has a
miniature audio jack already on it. Just run the output to an amplifier and
speakers and your good to go.

John
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:52 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Paging for analoge devices Reply with quote

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:28 AM, John Faubion <jfaubion at tx.rr.com> wrote:
Quote:
Quote:
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need auto answer or how else would the audio come out of
the speakers?

One of the lowest cost solutions I've used for this is a Grandstream BT-200.
You can buy the phone for around $50, it supports auto answer, and it has a
miniature audio jack already on it. Just run the output to an amplifier and
speakers and your good to go.

John


Yes I suspect the GS ATAs (286/486) have the same option and have a
simple single pair analog RJ11 jack for an analog device. Might be
even cheaper and definitely lower profile than a full blown phone.

Besides that I have had bad luck with GS phones (based on the BT102s)
losing registration. This was quite some time ago but the ATAs never
gave me any problems.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:10 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Paging for analoge devices Reply with quote

Bilal,

So you want to page through your analog phones, no overhead paging. I
doubt this is possible.

I think your options are an IP phones such as the Polycom that
supports paging or using an AMP and speakers usually mounted high on
the wall or flush with a tile ceiling.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:58 AM, bilal ghayyad <bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
Dear Steve;

Already we need to use the same analoge phones that is
connected to the fxs ports, to do paging to it.

What overhead?



Regards
Bilal
--- Steve Totaro <stotaro at totarotechnologies.com>
wrote:

Quote:
Bilal,

You will have great luck with Polycom then, not sure
about others.
Why not go for overhead paging? It will be much
easier.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:24 AM, bilal ghayyad
<bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
And auto answer also will be needed for IP Phones?



Regards
Bilal
--- Steve Totaro <stotaro at totarotechnologies.com>
wrote:

Quote:
Bilal,

Sorry to reply to my reply but if you can
register
Quote:
Quote:
multiple accounts
and setup auto answer on one of those accounts,
it
Quote:
Quote:
could work. The
problem is, I am not sure if there are any ATAs
that
Quote:
Quote:
have this
ability.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Steve Totaro
<stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:
Quote:
Bilal,

No, I do not think that you can make this
work.
Quote:
Quote:
You would obviously
Quote:
need auto answer or how else would the audio
come
Quote:
Quote:
out of the speakers?
Quote:

I thought you were talking about overhead
paging.
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:

Thanks,
Steve Totaro



On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:49 AM, bilal
ghayyad
Quote:
Quote:
<bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
Quote:
Dear Steve;

I was asking about the ability to do
paging on
Quote:
Quote:
the
Quote:
Quote:
normal analoge phones (which is connected
to
Quote:
Quote:
fxs
Quote:
Quote:
ports, and it already receive and
originate
Quote:
Quote:
calls on
Quote:
Quote:
the system). So does that work? If yes,
do I
Quote:
Quote:
need
Quote:
Quote:
auto-answer? If I need auto-answer here,
then
Quote:
Quote:
I will
Quote:
Quote:
face a problem in the calls which coming
normally to
Quote:
Quote:
the analoge phone (when someone dial that
extension).
Quote:
Quote:

Any advise?

Regards
Bilal
--- Steve Totaro
<stotaro at totarotechnologies.com>
Quote:
Quote:
wrote:



Quote:
Bogen is the defacto standard in
quality
Quote:
Quote:
paging
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
equipment.

FXS port should work just fine with
auto-answer
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
using any AMP.

The Onkyo suggestion was just an idea
for a
Quote:
Quote:
cheaper
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
but probably
higher quality audio with more volume
in a
Quote:
Quote:
loud
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
environment. I was
not saying you "needed" to use Onkyo,
just
Quote:
Quote:
that you
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
could build a
paging system with a regular tuner,
possibly
Quote:
Quote:
have
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
better sound, and do
it cheaper than going Bogen.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 6:39 AM, bilal
ghayyad
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
<bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
Hi All;

Just would like to know if Boger,
UPAM,
Quote:
Quote:
and Onkyo
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
can
Quote:
be connected to the FXS ports and
take
Quote:
Quote:
extension
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
from
Quote:
asterisk?

And why Onkyo is needed if I need to
use
Quote:
Quote:
horn
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
speakers?

Regards
Bilal

---------------

Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
bilal ghayyad wrote:

Quote:
Quote:
Steve Totaro wrote:
Quote:
On 4/5/08, bilal ghayyad
<bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
Quote:

Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Anyone knows (tried) to
use
Quote:
Quote:
Page for
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
analoge
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
phone(zaptel channel -
fxs)? If
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
yes,
Quote:
how?
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:

Bogen Rulez

Quote:
Quote:

Sorry I did not understand
any
Quote:
Quote:
thing
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
from
Quote:
your
reply.
Quote:
Quote:

Quote:
Google is your friend. I
discovered very
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
quickly what
they were
talking
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
about by googling.

You may be able to find the
device
Quote:
Quote:
a little
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
cheaper, but
without
the brand
Quote:
Quote:
name, by searching for "UPAM".
Typically,
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
these
Quote:
will have
the
"AT&T" or
Quote:
Quote:
"Lucent" names branded on
them,
Quote:
Quote:
despite
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
being
Quote:
identical and
Quote:
Quote:
manufactured by exactly the
same
Quote:
Quote:
entity.
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:40 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Paging for analoge devices Reply with quote

I am going on memory but I do recall that Aastra had a phone that used
ADSI codes that would 'turn on' a speaker on an analog phone

Quote:
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-
bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 3:10 PM
To: bilal ghayyad; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
Discussion
Quote:
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Paging for analoge devices

Bilal,

So you want to page through your analog phones, no overhead paging. I
doubt this is possible.

I think your options are an IP phones such as the Polycom that
supports paging or using an AMP and speakers usually mounted high on
the wall or flush with a tile ceiling.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:58 AM, bilal ghayyad <bilmar_gh at yahoo.com>
wrote:
Quote:
Dear Steve;

Already we need to use the same analoge phones that is
connected to the fxs ports, to do paging to it.

What overhead?



Regards
Bilal
--- Steve Totaro <stotaro at totarotechnologies.com>
wrote:

Quote:
Bilal,

You will have great luck with Polycom then, not sure
about others.
Why not go for overhead paging? It will be much
easier.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:24 AM, bilal ghayyad
<bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
And auto answer also will be needed for IP Phones?



Regards
Bilal
--- Steve Totaro <stotaro at totarotechnologies.com>
wrote:

Quote:
Bilal,

Sorry to reply to my reply but if you can
register
Quote:
Quote:
multiple accounts
and setup auto answer on one of those accounts,
it
Quote:
Quote:
could work. The
problem is, I am not sure if there are any ATAs
that
Quote:
Quote:
have this
ability.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Steve Totaro
<stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:
Quote:
Bilal,

No, I do not think that you can make this
work.
Quote:
Quote:
You would obviously
Quote:
need auto answer or how else would the audio
come
Quote:
Quote:
out of the speakers?
Quote:

I thought you were talking about overhead
paging.
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:

Thanks,
Steve Totaro



On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:49 AM, bilal
ghayyad
Quote:
Quote:
<bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
Quote:
Dear Steve;

I was asking about the ability to do
paging on
Quote:
Quote:
the
Quote:
Quote:
normal analoge phones (which is connected
to
Quote:
Quote:
fxs
Quote:
Quote:
ports, and it already receive and
originate
Quote:
Quote:
calls on
Quote:
Quote:
the system). So does that work? If yes,
do I
Quote:
Quote:
need
Quote:
Quote:
auto-answer? If I need auto-answer here,
then
Quote:
Quote:
I will
Quote:
Quote:
face a problem in the calls which coming
normally to
Quote:
Quote:
the analoge phone (when someone dial that
extension).
Quote:
Quote:

Any advise?

Regards
Bilal
--- Steve Totaro
<stotaro at totarotechnologies.com>
Quote:
Quote:
wrote:



Quote:
Bogen is the defacto standard in
quality
Quote:
Quote:
paging
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
equipment.

FXS port should work just fine with
auto-answer
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
using any AMP.

The Onkyo suggestion was just an idea
for a
Quote:
Quote:
cheaper
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
but probably
higher quality audio with more volume
in a
Quote:
Quote:
loud
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
environment. I was
not saying you "needed" to use Onkyo,
just
Quote:
Quote:
that you
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
could build a
paging system with a regular tuner,
possibly
Quote:
Quote:
have
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
better sound, and do
it cheaper than going Bogen.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 6:39 AM, bilal
ghayyad
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
<bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
Hi All;

Just would like to know if Boger,
UPAM,
Quote:
Quote:
and Onkyo
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
can
Quote:
be connected to the FXS ports and
take
Quote:
Quote:
extension
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
from
Quote:
asterisk?

And why Onkyo is needed if I need to
use
Quote:
Quote:
horn
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
speakers?

Regards
Bilal

---------------

Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
bilal ghayyad wrote:

Quote:
Quote:
Steve Totaro wrote:
Quote:
On 4/5/08, bilal ghayyad
<bilmar_gh at yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
Quote:

Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Anyone knows (tried) to
use
Quote:
Quote:
Page for
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
analoge
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
phone(zaptel channel -
fxs)? If
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
yes,
Quote:
how?
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:

Bogen Rulez

Quote:
Quote:

Sorry I did not understand
any
Quote:
Quote:
thing
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
from
Quote:
your
reply.
Quote:
Quote:

Quote:
Google is your friend. I
discovered very
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
quickly what
they were
talking
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
about by googling.

You may be able to find the
device
Quote:
Quote:
a little
Quote:
Quote:
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